We’ll just talk about the story Lord of the flies

Lord of the flies actually 2 films it was a book and then it was adapted into a film in 1963 and then a film again in 1990. it’s not a review of the book is it a review of both movies possibly. I’m probably going to compare both the movies and talk about how they did things similar or different to the book and in any case, I just wanna talk about lord of the flies there is 1 of these movies is superior to the other.

We’ll just talk about the story that you might have heard mentions as of late it is about a group of schoolboys. They’re all marooned on this island no adults around which had a great they’re having fun and in all versions. They’ll find this conscience the book and the 2 films the comments the conscious law it’s a sea shell that you essentially can blow into it sounds like a horn and the like okay the law is if you’re holding the cons you can talk.

you have the floor so to speak and to but you can’t talk without the conscious that’s really the first law that they come up with in order to have some form of civility and as time goes on things start to fall apart and now you have the lord of the flies references you have heard. I’ve always enjoyed the story of lord of the flies ever since at the latest high school. But I think it’s because it’s the earliest and most concise story that makes the point just a very focused way it shines a spotlight on human nature points right to it in about 300 pages and it’s all about that I love Golding’s response the author of the book.

The important thing I always like that in 1963 it’s lower budget absolutely and that’s like kind of a burn people have with it like it’s super low budget looks cheap I don’t know I kind of came up in a time where if you could make a low budget cheap movie that was kind of cool like look at Clark’s you know it’s it’s Clark’s the lord of the flies not really actually the clerks is cheaper in both the 1963 version and the 1990 version the acting isn’t you know it’s not top notch in both cases you’re dealing with really young children who stuff like they have a lot of acting experience but the weaker of the 2 films I’ll start with the weakest 1 I guess is the 1990 version in 1990 version is a textbook case of for the most part having the point there and still not making the audience feel it like you would lord of the flies you have the feeling you have to feel that these kids are becoming ravenous and animalistic you have to feel the decline of society also they changed things in a weird way.

I don’t know why I’m just scratching my head the entire time like you just burned up screen time concentrating on this captain who still lives on the island which I think was a huge mistake because in the 1963 film version and the book in both cases the kids just arrive on this island with no adults sat is a throw them out of the nest and see how they fly kind of scenarios no real hope that an adult is just going to spring up and be like all right kids I got your back we’re gonna lead you but in the 1990 film version the captain is still alive that was kind of in a coma but still, the fact that he is not dead gives them that hope you can make the argument that has been the captain alive on the island.

But in this comatose state is essentially something to give the kids something to latch onto of the Old World but really that’s what the active lighting the signal fire to get rescued it is so we just kind of seemed redundant but like the captain was a massive waste of time yeah the, later on, there’s this they believe there’s a monster on the island this monster and so 1 of the kids runs across the. The captain is kind of like in this fever haze and he thinks he’s the monster I guess I just relate to the parachute in the book and the 1963 version because 1 was we’re talking pre-kindergarten at the babysitter’s house and there was this parachute in the trees and it was wrapped in a way probably wasn’t rep like this, to be honest with you but this is how I remember my kid brain processes thing it was wrecked in a way that it looked like it had 2 eyes and a mouth and look like a big ghost in the tree and scared the out of me so in the story.

The book at 1963 is like all we saw a parachute and like I totally understand but from a filmmaking aspect some of the actings aside also the 1963 version is the superior version simply because you start to see the kids deteriorate and acting out lashing out there seems rather just like screaming at nothing in that scene where they’re all dancing around the campfire that was intense from talking to life doesn’t mean when I say with the lord of the flies you have to feel it the 1963 version made me feel it more the fact that lord of the flies tells the story of human nature from children.
I think it’s brilliant, to be honest with you I always have as I’ve aged my perspective as to why is kind of changed or at least involved when I was younger I kind of saw it is brilliant because it what kids are at their innocent and even kids are not above human nature but as I’ve Asian gotten older I’ve realized that kids are less apt at using masks to navigate social situations adults have learned to do that you look at kids are very well emotionally I want to do this adult can put on masks and navigate different social situations you see that with cafeterias younger school kids in cafeterias you’re like with those of the nerds those of the jocks of those of the Goths these nineties clicks of talking about because that’s when I was in school but in the workplace, you kinda see social structure but different people can navigate into different tables in an in a workplace cafeteria in that with kids not really being refined in you.

Using social masks as adults do you just you take kids in a situation like this and they are human nature in Kearney you know through the control experiment they’re human nature without any of the social bullshit they’re not old enough to have the experience to have learned is that that’s the reason I’d now see how using kids and lord of the flies it’s actually brilliant call another thing I noticed in this reading of the books like in 3 days I read the book I watched 1 of the movies that I watched the other movie is that it’s not just the absence of civilization is not just the lawlessness it was the great unifier of fear the fear of this monster the fear of this thing that was in the woods and saw the hunters.

we will protect you and at that point to like pull the 42 in the workgroup why are we running check so it’s not just the absence of long civilization it’s the absence of long civilization mixed with fear and you take those components to mix them together it’s like the bomb in Die Hard with a vengeance you know you mix them and that is a very important and time was less than suppose lord of the flies if you watch it for the first time right now you’re gonna be like well I’ve seen these stories before but again for me it was the earliest most concise telling of this lesson.

But yeah we totally saw this lesson a lot now you know movies TV video games and everything it’s kind of the basis of the walking dead you know no civilization so now people just kind of act how they act so you have Negan the story of Negan it’s like you’re like well lord of the flies but adults even with me a bit slow coffee had you know you just kind of deranged because he was down there for that long you had that sickness that they talk about I can think of the name of it but the abyss is straight-up like I’ve said before lowkey wanna camas best movies but still set the isolationist feeling of no law also paranoid equals bad things I feel like it all kind of stems from lord of the flies but the lessons of lord of the flies are not to be forgotten in the end it’s the joker’s entire philosophy in the door.

Because this is kind of a lord of the flies is it’s a slow burn like that but I’ve always enjoyed but the lord of the flies has to say about human nature tribalism fear reacting out of fear and how. so have you read the book if you see in the movies have you seen a movie which 1 have you seen and which 1 did you like or not like hope I covered it all there I think I did it and what does the lord of the flies say to you how do you process the information given to that’s important that that’s very much a part of all of it so what did you think about.

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